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#97834 - 05/13/08 03:47 PM
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linzee27
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Allied Business School is probably not the best school from what I have researched, but I graduated and am now happily working. I am sick and tired of people that are being rude and aggressive on this subject. Get off your high horse and get a life...
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#97838 - 05/13/08 04:04 PM
Re: Allied school
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JustJ
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If you read my post on the other thread you will see that I am neither rude nor aggressive. As you are a graduate, maybe you would be kind enough to list the companies who will waive the 2 years of experience for Allied graduates to be able to test with them. This forum has had that question asked many times and as we don't seem to meet many working graduates from Allied the question has gone unanswered.
Thanks.
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#97840 - 05/13/08 04:13 PM
Re: Allied school
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linzee27
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I have tested with numerous companies and received two job offers. I do not want to post my company's name, and I see no reason why the career development department at Allied would not be willing to list the companies that they provide placement assistance with. There are many.
I do not believe you were rude or aggressive, and do not intend to be myself. I think some people need to watch their manners and realize they are talking to PEOPLE who have invested both time and money in a program, whether or not it is the BEST program. It seems to me that anyone posting with the the word "Allied" involved does not get the respect deserved. I, personally, have worked very hard both in the program and in job searching.
It is also my opinion that you can make the best out of a mediocre program. The amount of time and effort that you put into your program directly effects what you get out of your program.
In retrospect, and with better research, I would not have chosen Allied, but did not have the option to pay for and invest that much time again, and it has worked out fine for me.
I mean no disrespect to anyone.
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#97841 - 05/13/08 04:14 PM
Re: Allied school
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FarAwayDeb
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...we don't seem to meet many working graduates from Allied ...
That's for sure. And not just on this forum, but on two or three others that I frequent. It is UNUSUAL for someone from the Allied program to find a decent-paying job and most have to search for many months. Some get lucky, but like they say, even a blind squirrel occasionally stumbles across a nut once in awhile.
How this FACT means any of us is on a high horse is beyond me.
The reason they don't seem to get respect is because they either don't come here and ask about schools before plunking down their money, or they ask but then don't listen anyway, and then when they finish their course they show up here and expect us to miraculously tell them how to get a job. Maybe YOU can help some of them.
Edited by FarAwayDeb (05/13/08 04:15 PM)
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#97843 - 05/13/08 04:19 PM
Re: Allied school
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linzee27
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That FACT does not mean you on your high horse. I, even as an employed graduate, would not recommend Allied to anyone. But there is no reason the be rude or aggressive when saying stating that fact, and that is not to say that you personally were rude or aggressive either, I have not seen your posts related to Allied. This is only an observation that I have noted when current students or recent graduates of Allied post threads. There is a way to offer support and be kind and positive, while also stating that Allied probably is not the best program.
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#97845 - 05/13/08 04:20 PM
Re: Allied school
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JustJ
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I do not want to post my company's name, and I see no reason why the career development department at Allied would not be willing to list the companies that they provide placement assistance with. There are many.
I understand you not wanting to post the name of your company. I do, however, find the last part of your statement interesting. Most of the queries we have had from Allied grads have been about job placement. They have been unable to find a job as they have been unable to test without the experience waiver that comes with the top 2 schools.
Thank you for the information and I will be sure to advise any other Allied grads who come to this board to contact the career development department for job placement opportunities.
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#97847 - 05/13/08 04:25 PM
Re: Allied school
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FarAwayDeb
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It is good of you to point out that Allied is not a good school, and definitely not the best choice.
But that loses some of its worth when you point out that YOU went to Allied and YOU were able to get a job. Considering the number of people doing the Allied course, and the number who find a job, you were very lucky, and most others unfortunately won't be as lucky.
Hopefully this will help some of those people who don't seem to believe us, that they should not spend money on that course. Even if it means waiting a bit and saving up more money for a good course. For those who are already enrolled there, about all they can do is keep trying, and recognize that it's going to take longer and be more difficult.
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#97849 - 05/13/08 04:30 PM
Re: Allied school
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linzee27
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The reason they don't seem to get respect is because they either don't come here and ask about schools before plunking down their money, or they ask but then don't listen anyway, and then when they finish their course they show up here and expect us to miraculously tell them how to get a job. Maybe YOU can help some of them.
Has it occurred to you that not EVERYONE is aware of MT forums? I wasn't, but that does not give anyone the right to disrespect me. As far as the school is concerned, the job placement aspect of it was, as far as I am concerned, the pest aspect. It is the actual transcription training that leaves something to be said.
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#97850 - 05/13/08 04:31 PM
Re: Allied school
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linzee27
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haha, not the "pest" aspect, but the best aspect, excuse my typo... lunch break while typing.
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#97858 - 05/13/08 05:27 PM
Re: Allied school
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PegB
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Welcome to the forum Linzee!
You'll fit in fine here as you are blunt and to the point (yet not mean)... Glad to see ya here!
Peg
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#97860 - 05/13/08 05:51 PM
Re: Allied school
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linzee27
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Why thank you PegB and I am glad that I did not come across mean... that was not my intention at all! I'm just defending my crappy Allied education! :-)
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#97861 - 05/13/08 05:57 PM
Re: Allied school
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linzee27
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I do want to mention that I did pay on top of my tuition for the job placement. This may be one reason that some graduates who perhaps did not opt for the career placement, are having difficulties obtaining job placement information from the school... they did not pay for it.
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#97862 - 05/13/08 06:03 PM
Re: Allied school
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14tonks
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Has it occurred to you that not EVERYONE is aware of MT forums?
Of course they aren't. However, if someone is posting a question here, it's obvious that person is aware of them and capable of finding one. It's very unfortunate that so many don't bother to Google some forums up and do some reading and ask some questions until they are ready to graduate from a school rather than doing it when they are ready to apply to one. No one will argue with you that the advice might do more good then. (Although we've also seen plenty of people considering schools discard good advice because they manage to find someone, somewhere who went to a less expensive poor school at some point, or even no school, and did manage to find a job.)
You are right that many people just can't see a way to back up and redo the time and money investment in a poor school at the point they are well into the course (although some do). Some finish the course and manage to find a job of some kind anyway, and some of those eventually work their way up the greasy pole to a really good one, or at least as really good as one can find in this business these days. However, a lot more apparently don't ever find a job, because there's another group that finds online forums only after months (or sometimes years) of fruitless attempts.
If someone comes asking for an opinion on their school and their job prospects, and the answer is the school gets no respect from people in a position to hire, and the job hunt is therefore going to be tough, is it really doing them a service to lie about that, leaving them to wander down the primrose path in their rose-colored glasses until they finally run into that hard wall of reality at the end and bloody their nose on it?
No one is disrespecting you. How could we; we don't even know you. We do disrespect your school because we know something about the quality of its course based on the students it has turned out that have tested at many of the companies represented here. Even you admit that you would not choose it now, knowing what you do of the industry at this point.
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#97865 - 05/13/08 06:10 PM
Re: Allied school
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tropsicleAfter
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I do want to mention that I did pay on top of my tuition for the job placement. This may be one reason that some graduates who perhaps did not opt for the career placement, are having difficulties obtaining job placement information from the school... they did not pay for it.
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#97866 - 05/13/08 06:19 PM
Re: Allied school
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14tonks
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I'd have to ditto that.
Is it made plain to everyone at the time they enroll that only those taking the extra baksheesh option will be provided any placement assistance? How much is the price differential? And do you know what percentage who do take that option are successfully placed in a job within two or three months?
I would think that would be very, very valuable information for anyone currently at your school, and it doesn't appear to be available at their web site.
(That's actually a red flag any time you are considering buying anything--if the only way to get detailed information and prices is by subjecting yourself to a salesman, it's likely what's being sold is overpriced and/or of inferior quality.)
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#97882 - 05/13/08 08:41 PM
Re: Allied school
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linzee27
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Registered: 04/24/08
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I totally agree. I went into the program GREEN and naive, I will not every deny that, I got lucky. I WISH I had known about the forums, and I did do research to the best of my ability, and somehow did not come across (or think it would answer and of my questions, for some odd reason)... I am not saying NOT to tell people the reality of subpar schooling, lets just do it in a nicer tone!
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#97883 - 05/13/08 08:49 PM
Re: Allied school
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tropsicleAfter
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Well, "nicer" is so subjective that we could never achieve it across the board. Realizing that, a default of open, honest, and direct works just fine for me.
I think, after a couple of years of observation, that the approach used by tonks and others is the best way to impart the knowledge and information typically requested. After all, no one here is paid to dispense answers, so those that do so have the absolute right to do it concisely. If and when some find that rude, so be it. At least they got the good information that they requested, rather than some soft-serve what they want to hear.
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