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#97801 - 05/13/08 12:53 PM
How to handle this?
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Chinasmom
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Registered: 05/13/08
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I have been an MT for going on 10 years and had a relative ask me how to get into the field. I then pointed her in the direction of the top 2 and she chose one. She graduated with an A and is now having trouble passing employment testing! I am actually shocked that she is having so much trouble after completing one of the big guns. I am feeling bad now for her and am not really sure what to tell her. I have encouraged her to keep testing, but am not willing to take it to the point that I am testing with her or for her. I am a little stumped that this is happening and just thought I would turn to this board for some advice. Thanks!
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#97803 - 05/13/08 01:01 PM
Re: How to handle this?
[Re: Chinasmom]
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Linda Andrews CMT
Moderator-Andrews School
Registered: 12/31/69
Posts: 4953
Loc: Oklahoma City, OK US
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Well, since we don't give letter grades, she must not be one of my graduates. Regardless, have her contact her school. Find out which employers often hire graduates of that school. Find the person at the school who can help with these things and see if that person can sort out the problem. There are all kinds of reasons why a graduate might not pass an employment test, but those shouldn't apply if the graduate did a good job in a good course. I have lots of questions I would ask of the graduate, but if it were my graduate, I could turn to our records and answer those questions. Most other schools can do the same thing. Turn to the school for help.
Our new graduates report that they receive an average of three job offers before they accept an offer, so more information is needed to find out why that is not happening for your relative. It may not be something that you can fix. In fact, it may not even be something a school can fix. We need more information.
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#97814 - 05/13/08 01:57 PM
Re: How to handle this?
[Re: Linda Andrews CMT]
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Chinasmom
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Registered: 05/13/08
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Thank you, Linda for responding. I should correct myself here and say that she told me a number and I just assumed it to mean an "A". I will certainly tell her that she should get in contact with her school for assistance. It's wonderful that she has this option after completing the course and will not be just thrown to the wolves!
I think most of the problem is with the ESL docs. She is not hearing them very well is not yet able to anticipate what she should be hearing. I am sure that with time and experience she could overcome that, but it will just be a matter of her getting a chance. Thanks again for the response.
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#97835 - 05/13/08 03:53 PM
Re: How to handle this?
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Susan Francis CMT
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Registered: 07/03/98
Posts: 467
Loc: Akron OH USA
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[quote=Chinasmom She graduated with an A and is now having trouble passing employment testing! I am actually shocked that she is having so much trouble after completing one of the big guns. I am feeling bad now for her and am not really sure what to tell her. I have encouraged her to keep testing, but am not willing to take it to the point that I am testing with her or for her. I am a little stumped that this is happening and just thought I would turn to this board for some advice. Thanks! [/quote]
Hi Chinasmom,
The M-TEC grading scale is not based on a letter grade either, but I understand what you are saying about taking a score and assuming it was an "A" in this instance. As Linda already pointed out, I would strongly encourage any graduate of ours to come back to talk directly to me if they are having difficulty testing or to go directly to their school for help. There are so many options available to them that they do not need to struggle with this. Often times testing and job searches can be daunting, not knowing where to look, or how to proceed, but we do have instructions in place for them to use. We would not want to see anyone continue down that path. Please encourage your friend to contact me if she is an M-TEC graduate or to notify her school for assistance. She might be pleasantly surprised by the outcome! 
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#97872 - 05/13/08 07:13 PM
Re: How to handle this?
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meri
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Registered: 09/08/01
Posts: 8795
Loc: Murrieta, California
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Maybe she just told you she took your advice on what school to go to and she actually went to a different one. Nah...she wouldn't do that. Or, would she? 
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#97925 - 05/14/08 11:15 AM
Re: How to handle this?
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Chinasmom
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Registered: 05/13/08
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Thank you as well for your reply, Susan. I have passed all this information on to her and hope she can get this figured out.
Meri, if she actually did that I would smack her right upside the old noggin!
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#97929 - 05/14/08 12:15 PM
Re: How to handle this?
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meri
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Registered: 09/08/01
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Loc: Murrieta, California
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LOL! And I certainly wouldn't blame you!
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#97938 - 05/14/08 02:06 PM
Re: How to handle this?
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Linda Andrews CMT
Moderator-Andrews School
Registered: 12/31/69
Posts: 4953
Loc: Oklahoma City, OK US
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Let me address the ESL situation for a moment. While thick, heavy accents are a challenge, the reason for problems with them lies with lack of understanding of medical content.
I talk about this frequently on our instructional message board. My students and graduates would say, "NOOOOOO, Please! Don't tell that story again!"
I'm fighting it, but I think I have to tell it.
Back years ago when I was about to sit for the CMT exam, I was terrified because the percentage of those passing the test was very low. There was a 'CMT practice tape' and of course I got it. I believe it may have been the first report I heard, but the doctor had a heavy accent and I could understand very little that he said. I turned off the machine and decided to give up. That lasted a couple of minutes. Then I analyzed the problem. That report was chock full of laboratory data and I had not yet done enough of that to have a good idea of what was supposed to be included.
My students and graduates know the l-o-n-g story about how I attacked that problem. I obsessed over it, as is my normal practice. Then I went back to the report and tried again. I was shocked to find out that the doctor was not difficult to understand at all! The problem was not that it was an ESL dictation. The problem was, I didn't have sufficient knowledge of the medical content being dictated on that report.
Enough about that. My graduates, who have heard this story more than a few times, have broken into my office and are removing my keybo..
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#97946 - 05/14/08 03:12 PM
Re: How to handle this?
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FarAwayDeb
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Registered: 03/15/02
Posts: 2783
Loc: just south of Rochester, NY
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The problem was not that it was an ESL dictation. The problem was, I didn't have sufficient knowledge of the medical content being dictated on that report.
I can definitely relate to that. I have transcribed tons of C-sections, and no matter how strong the accent I rarely have any trouble. I pretty much follow along step by step, I know what they are doing and what they are going to do next, and exactly what they are talking about. However, I have this one Asian female doctor with a very poor command of English, and unfortunately she dictates neurosurgery. I don't do a lot of neurosurgery, and I get lost. I can't follow her. I'm not sure what she's talking about. I have moaned many times that I wish this doctor dictated C-sections instead of neurosurgery!
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