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#97610 - 05/10/08 02:01 PM Former CS Student New School- Career? help me...
MarieDall
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Registered: 05/10/08
Posts: 11
Loc: Central Florida
Yes, I'm a former CS student that did NOT pass the exam, got pregnant and never looked back, until now. I am contemplating going back to school but something is nagging at me. Although CS offered me a 40% disc to retake the course, I am very Leary. I glanced at the M-Tech outline but again, the choices. I had a neighbor who hired me during the schooling and it was way to much to handle. I should never have taken it all on. It frustrated me to no end, I couldn't concentrate on my studies while working for her then being criticized like crazy for my lack of experience. I felt this career was not for me after her ridiculing me to no end. I barely knew how to send an e-mail let alone everything else. I am now a novice PC user and am considering the field again. I must say this board is very scary for anyone who may lack a bit of self confidence from their past experiences. Any advice and/or opinions would be of help to me. I'm also questioning whether or not I can make a good supplemental income in the field anymore. Where are the positive posts on her? Anyway, I welcome your opinions, I really do.

Edited by MarieDall (05/10/08 02:02 PM)

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#97615 - 05/10/08 03:07 PM Re: Former CS Student New School- Career? help me... [Re: MarieDall]
moaab
Member


Registered: 02/02/08
Posts: 378
Loc: Chicagoland
I can understand your frustration, Marie. I am currently a student at Andrews and we are discouraged from working as an MT during our schooling for that very reason. There is so much to learn that it is overwhelming at times. My recommendation would be to try again at a top notch school like Andrews or M-Tech, and throw yourself into your studies. Once you finish your schooling at a good school, you will be ready to begin working. I can't speak for M-Tech, but Andrews will help you find employment when the time is right.

I hope that helps.
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Most people are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.........Abraham Lincoln's mother

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#97618 - 05/10/08 03:24 PM Re: Former CS Student New School- Career? help me... [Re: moaab]
MarieDall
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Registered: 05/10/08
Posts: 11
Loc: Central Florida
Thanks Moaab. DO not do it, no matter how anxious you get. It's SO hard and impossible really. It's like you're working 2 full time jobs if you try it.
I'm not excited at all about restarting such a long course either. Why is everyone on her so about these two schools? Is it advertising or something? I'm sure ther are others that are good, maybe not AS good, but still good. I didn't know however, that CS had a pc grading the exams. This adds up because when I asked them if I could SEE my exam to view the mistakes, they didn't have it. She could only view my grade. SO, I didn't finish school, I blew the working relationship with the neighbor, who was my "in" in the field and now it's 4 years later and I'm in the same boat! Ugh, why she hired me on I have no idea. I wish I didn't let that happen but I was so anxious to start. I would work for free now to gain that experience. I was also wondering if I could take their very basic course at MT as well. I have to get in touch with someone from the school for all that. I wish I didn't have to wait until Monday. Thanks again. Hope I get more advice.

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#97624 - 05/10/08 04:09 PM Re: Former CS Student New School- Career? help me... [Re: MarieDall]
meri
Member


Registered: 09/08/01
Posts: 8796
Loc: Murrieta, California
Let me get this straight. You can't wait until Monday so you can contact CS about taking another course with them? When they didn't prepare you well enough the first time to even pass their final, let alone prepare you for a job, and then couldn't even show you your test to see what areas you needed help in?

If you are concerned about Andrews or M-TEC because of the time, then just imagine the time you are going to waste when you go through another course and still aren't prepared to get a job. Or, if you do get a job, not prepared as well as you should be to do well in this business.

There is no easy way out (or in) at this point. The reason Andrews and M-Tec are constantly referred here is not because they are "advertisers" but because they are the best. There are good schools across the nation, true. But, if you want to start out working from home with one of the national companies, then going with either one of these schools will get your foot in the door, which those other schools across the nation won't. The nationals won't waive the 2-year work experience requirement because they haven't heard of them and they don't know what kind of graduates they are turning out. They do know what kind Andrews and M-Tec turn out.

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#97627 - 05/10/08 04:38 PM Re: Former CS Student New School- Career? help me... [Re: meri]
Endiqua
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Registered: 04/28/05
Posts: 3451
Loc: At the computer - where else?
In the years I've spent on this board and others, I have NEVER heard an Andrews or M-TEC graduate say that they were not prepared or had a hard time finding a job. I can also say that I have been personally impressed by the caliber of work put out by the graduates that I have had the opportunity to work with.

CS graduates are hired by some nationals to work from home after graduation, although with some there is extra training required by the company. I think Meri made some excellent points in her first paragraph, though.

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#97628 - 05/10/08 04:38 PM Re: Former CS Student New School- Career? help me... [Re: meri]
MarieDall
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Registered: 05/10/08
Posts: 11
Loc: Central Florida
Meri,
Sorry for the confusion but what I wrote was that I was anxious to contact M-TECH. NOT CS. I'm not considering CS at this point as stated for the above reasons. I don't need to be talked out of CS at this point, that's s finished chapter.

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#97631 - 05/10/08 04:42 PM Re: Former CS Student New School- Career? help me... [Re: MarieDall]
MarieDall
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Registered: 05/10/08
Posts: 11
Loc: Central Florida
Thanks Endiqua. Perhaps I was not clear in the first post. But, yes, that's why I ruled out CS. Couldn't show me the exam, imagine that. I also never knew that it was a pc that checked the work. That explains so much as to why it never came back flawless. No explanations, just was filled in red. I only asked about the advertising of the 2 schools because everyone seems to knock every other school but those.
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#97632 - 05/10/08 05:27 PM Re: Former CS Student New School- Career? help me... [Re: MarieDall]
meri
Member


Registered: 09/08/01
Posts: 8796
Loc: Murrieta, California
Thanks for clearing that up. I was kind of hoping you meant one of the other schools.

Also, just to clear something up - it's not that we "knock" the other schools. We are just telling the truth from what we have seen or read in the past, well 8 for me, years on this board and others about grads not getting jobs, or if they do they cannot keep the job because they aren't prepared.

Good luck to you!

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#97633 - 05/10/08 05:51 PM Re: Former CS Student New School- Career? help me... [Re: meri]
MarieDall
New Member


Registered: 05/10/08
Posts: 11
Loc: Central Florida
wow, thanks. I'll take all of this into consideration. I appreciate your help.
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#97635 - 05/10/08 06:03 PM Re: Former CS Student New School- Career? help me [Re: MarieDall]
FarAwayDeb
Member


Registered: 03/15/02
Posts: 2789
Loc: just south of Rochester, NY
Marie, from what I understand, a real person goes over and grades your final exam at CS. But that is the only time a real person sees and goes over your work.

All the practice transcriptions are compared automatically with the same report transcribed at some time, some place, by an MT. It's like holding two copies up to the light and noticing the differences. Whether or not that MT actually transcribed the report correctly, who knows. Which copy is actually correct, yours or hers, who knows.

Andrews and M-TEC cost more because they have real MT instructors who actually go over your work and tell you what you are doing wrong. They help you make sure you are learning everything correctly. And there is absolutely no comparing the great textbooks you will receive from Andrews or M-TEC versus the homemade books written by Andrea Anaya, who owns CS. That's another reason the CS course is cheaper.

Considering that you didn't pass the CS exam and it's been four years or more since then, you definitely need to start over with a good school if you are going to have a chance at becoming an MT.
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#97636 - 05/10/08 06:14 PM Re: Former CS Student New School- Career? help me [Re: FarAwayDeb]
MarieDall
New Member


Registered: 05/10/08
Posts: 11
Loc: Central Florida
Thanks FarAway...
And then there's that. DO I have a chance at this or am I that horrible? lol, I have to ask that seriously at times. Well, I do know your girls are right. You hit the nail on the head, homemade books, etc. They also told me that those books haven't been updated (so I could use the ones I already have) because it's to costly. SO, they've only updated the online data.

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#97639 - 05/10/08 07:24 PM Re: Former CS Student New School- Career? help me [Re: MarieDall]
14tonks
Member


Registered: 10/25/01
Posts: 5978
Loc: Only 3rd world country in US
Quote:
what I wrote was that I was anxious to contact M-TECH. NOT CS.


Hopefully you mean you are anxious to contact M-TEC, not M-Tech. Be careful; there are some deliberate sound-alike school names out there. M-TEC is not M-Tech and is definitely not MTACC or Med-Tech. I think there may even be someone who has tried to rip off the Andrews name with a variant.

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#97640 - 05/10/08 07:49 PM Re: Former CS Student New School- Career? help me [Re: 14tonks]
MarieDall
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Registered: 05/10/08
Posts: 11
Loc: Central Florida
yes, that is what I meant Tonks. I've read a lot of posts from you on here today. I was a bit worried about you finding my post... was afraid I'd get "bashed" in here for my lack of decision making. Do you have any thoughts regarding MT Advantage? you seem to have been in the biz for quite a while.
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#97642 - 05/10/08 08:11 PM Re: Former CS Student New School- Career? help me [Re: MarieDall]
14tonks
Member


Registered: 10/25/01
Posts: 5978
Loc: Only 3rd world country in US
Originally Posted By: MarieDall
Do you have any thoughts regarding MT Advantage? you seem to have been in the biz for quite a while.


You mean MTACC? I think there's a recent thread around here that discusses them. They earned their nickname M-tacky in their original incarnation, and I have no reason to think much has changed since then. Maybe you can find an actual graduate working for some place other than the founder's company by now, although I recollect that was a wild goose chase for so long, most people finally gave up trying. They paid for a sponsorship here for a while, which raised a lot of protests, just as the VLC sponsorship did. (A lot of people don't seem to understand that most commercial sites take advertising dollars from anyone who wants to advertise.) They agreed to drop the sponsorship when they refused to allow uncensored posting on their forum, which was against the terms of service here. (VLC's approach to the problem of what unbiased observers might say about their course seems to be just to have no activity on their sponsor forum.) I think MTACC may still be running banner ads as the AHDI forum, though--which again means nothing other than that they were willing to pay for ads.

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I was a bit worried about you finding my post... was afraid I'd get "bashed" in here for my lack of decision making.


If you consider it "bashing" to have people point out the illogic of paying to repeat a course that failed to educate you the first time through, well, I guess that's your prerogative. For what it's worth, that approach makes no more sense to me than it does to those who already commented on it, but I didn't see the need to add to what had already been said.


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#97643 - 05/10/08 08:19 PM Re: Former CS Student New School- Career? help me [Re: MarieDall]
14tonks
Member


Registered: 10/25/01
Posts: 5978
Loc: Only 3rd world country in US
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And then there's that. DO I have a chance at this or am I that horrible?


That's another reason so many of us recommend Andrews or M-TEC. Both schools have screening entrance exams, and neither school will take tuition from someone they feel doesn't have a real chance of passing their course and becoming a successful MT if they are willing to do the work and finish the curriculum.

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#97645 - 05/10/08 08:28 PM Re: Former CS Student New School- Career? help me [Re: MarieDall]
Jiffer
Member


Registered: 11/01/06
Posts: 125
Hi Marie,
This is not specifically directed at you, but I just wanted you to know the name of the school is M-TEC (all caps). It is not M-Tech or MTACC or M-Tec or any of the above. It is M-TEC and stands for Medical Transcription Education Center.

Good luck in your decision.

Jiffer
Proud M-TEC Grad (who has NEVER had any problem finding a job)

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#97653 - 05/10/08 09:33 PM Re: Former CS Student New School- Career? help me [Re: Jiffer]
moaab
Member


Registered: 02/02/08
Posts: 378
Loc: Chicagoland
Oops! The M-TEC and M-Tech mix-up belongs to me! Sorry. I used it first in my post and the OP was only following my less-than-perfect lead. I stand corrected and promise to be more careful!

Smiles,
Vikki


Edited by moaab (05/10/08 09:33 PM)
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#97654 - 05/10/08 09:36 PM Re: Former CS Student New School- Career? help me [Re: Jiffer]
14tonks
Member


Registered: 10/25/01
Posts: 5978
Loc: Only 3rd world country in US
One last contribution to this thread, for all those who are considering taking a second MT course based on the same criteria (usually lower cost and shorter length) that they used to pick their first course or who insist that a course reported to produce poor results for dozens of previous posters will surely work for them:

“We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.”

“Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

Albert Einstein

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#97663 - 05/11/08 07:48 AM Re: Former CS Student New School- Career? help me... [Re: MarieDall]
Susan Francis CMT
Moderator-MTEC


Registered: 07/03/98
Posts: 467
Loc: Akron OH USA
Originally Posted By: MarieDall
Meri,
Sorry for the confusion but what I wrote was that I was anxious to contact M-TECH. NOT CS. I'm not considering CS at this point as stated for the above reasons. I don't need to be talked out of CS at this point, that's s finished chapter.


Hi Marie: I am sorry to hear things did not work out for you the first time around. We discourage our students from working during their training, so I can see how this might have hindered your progress.

I would be happy to talk with you about continuing your training. You can call me toll free on Monday at 877-864-3307 between 8:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. EST or feel free to email me directly at sfrancis@mtecinc.com, and we will see what we can do to help.

I would strongly suggest that you take some time over the weekend, or early next week, to complete the M-TEC preenrollment test located on our website http://www.mtecinc.com under the prospective student pulldown. This in no way will lock you into enrolling with us (we would encourage you do be sure you have had time to do your research before enrolling), but it will give you and the M-TEC instructors some idea about what additional areas you might need to work on during your course.

I'll look forward to hearing from you.

Susan

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#97667 - 05/11/08 09:42 AM Re: Former CS Student New School- Career? help me... [Re: Susan Francis CMT]
MarieDall
New Member


Registered: 05/10/08
Posts: 11
Loc: Central Florida
If you consider it "bashing" to have people point out the illogic of paying to repeat a course that failed to educate you the first time through, well, I guess that's your prerogative. For what it's worth, that approach makes no more sense to me than it does to those who already commented on it, but I didn't see the need to add to what had already been said.


Tonks
Read closer again, if you will. I do not consider THIS to be bashing. Simply referring to previous posts where you were less than welcoming to a newbie if you want to know. Your sarcastic condescending remarks really aren't needed for someone who is asking for support and thoughts and opinions from people who have been there. I see you doing this quite regularly in everything I've been reading on here. You seem to turn everything into an argument of some sort. Thank you girls for you encouraging words but this is the last thing I need when I log on. Geez, This will be the last post. Susan, I will call you on Monday. Thank you so much.

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