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#6168 - 01/30/03 09:06 AM
Future of MT
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Julie W8
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Registered: 01/10/99
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Loc: Los Angeles, CA USA
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I started a discussion at SMT about doctors going back to handwritten records to save money. Between handwritten records and a more computer-literate generation, how many of you believe MT is a good career choice for someone starting now? What do you think medical records documentation will look like in five years?
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#6169 - 01/30/03 09:09 AM
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Anonymous
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I think it will be fine in most places. For a lot of places with ESLs, the reports will look like swiss cheese because it's going to get worse.
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#6170 - 01/30/03 09:37 AM
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George Heymont
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Registered: 05/04/99
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Loc: San Francisco, CA
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I'm extremely pessimistic at this point. And, considering the return on investment, I think many people would be better off getting a job working for Starbucks or a supermarket, where the chances are pretty good that an employer will provide benefits for part-time work, there is less need for continuing education, and you still get paid when no one comes into the store. George
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#6171 - 01/30/03 09:42 AM
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Ruby2
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Registered: 01/13/03
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Loc: Washington State
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So.....your personal opinion here now George and Doug and Nae. If your mother or sister or daughter had already invested over a year in training, with 4 more months to completion, would you suggest they "cut bait" and move on to something else before investing any more? Surely all this medical and anatomy knowledge could get one's foot in the medical door in a different area other than MT? What would you folks advise?
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#6172 - 01/30/03 10:04 PM
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Julie W8
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Registered: 01/10/99
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Loc: Los Angeles, CA USA
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How does that song go? You've got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, know when to run.  I'd advise them to fold 'em on the MT part, at least. Most office positions require anatomy and terminology training. I used to teach a terminology class for medical office administrators. A good office manager is worth their weight in gold. Around here, they can get $60,000/year for a smaller (3-5 physician practice) office and in the six figures for larger practices. [ 01-30-2003: Message edited by: Julie W8 ]
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#6173 - 01/30/03 10:38 PM
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HighDesertMT
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Writing notes by hand on the upswing? That's interesting because I just had a conversation with one of our hospital accounts and the MR director related to me that they are encountering a problem with illegible records (1), and that (2) many of the clinic dictators are requesting use of the dial-in system to dictate. Now, I was encouraged by this. I personally discourage any account that we solicit who are currently hand-writing notes to cease this practice immediately. Admittedly, I am vague but ominous as to why. However, on point, I would discourage persons who are considering entering our field as I feel there are simply too many new "MTs" being cranked out and we are overwhelmed by the sheer numbers of them. There has really never been enough work to go around historically, even for experienced MTs! DUH!
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#6174 - 01/30/03 10:55 PM
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Annie
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quote: doctors going back to handwritten records to save money
Going back? Come to Long Island, Julie. 20 years in this business and I've yet to come across ONE doctor or group that actually has transcribed medical records. I'm sure they're out there - I've just not come across any in all these years. 
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#6175 - 01/30/03 11:06 AM
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Julie W8
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Registered: 01/10/99
Posts: 3526
Loc: Los Angeles, CA USA
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What started me thinking about this was a discussion with a doctor I had an appointment with last week. As you know, all the paperwork asks for your occupation and when they read mine, it usually starts a conversation. He told me he went back to handwriting his records because he had to cut office costs somewhere. I also have some MT friends who've lost some major business to check-off forms -- all to save money. [ 01-30-2003: Message edited by: Julie W8 ]
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#6176 - 01/30/03 11:55 AM
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ValMc
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Registered: 06/01/00
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Loc: Indianapolis, IN
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Sigh...when my MT gurus feel this way, I guess it is time to move on.
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#6177 - 01/30/03 12:06 PM
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jakrabbit
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Registered: 12/27/02
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Loc: Nebraska
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At our clinic, we've gone from 3 FT MT's to l FT (my supervisor) and l PT (me). I went from FT to about l5 hrs. a week. The nurses are using stamps (i.e. "no show") hand writing, and using flow charts more, and the docs (all but l of 6) are using ViaVoice. Of course it's a $$ issue - I wonder who lives in the nicer houses? It's not me!!
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#6178 - 01/30/03 12:41 PM
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Anonymous
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I keep having mixed thoughts about the Future of MT. On the one hand, VR and template-type charts are already making huge inroads into the private physician practices, and I believe this will become even more widespread. The problem with handwritten notes is legibility and the insurance industry's policy of, "If we can't read it, it didn't happen." On the other side, you've got acute care. With the expanding use of foreign physicians, the enormous cost of general transcription VR software/hardware, and the fact that VR is just not quite "there" yet for 100+ physicians of many specialties, I believe that there is, and will remain, a demand for experienced MTs -- even if they are "only" editing after a "front-end" VR software. I would say that unless a new MT can obtain hospital experience (preferably inhouse), they're going to be left on the bottom of pile, and I would not recommend this career, especially for those who want to work at home for a little extra money.
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#6179 - 01/30/03 01:53 PM
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Julie W8
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Registered: 01/10/99
Posts: 3526
Loc: Los Angeles, CA USA
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Actually, Gaile, unfortunately I think the "little extra spending money" people have a better chance than those of us who run a business on the clinic side... generally, they work for less and are willing to do more just to keep their "little extra money."
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#6180 - 01/30/03 01:57 PM
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Nae
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Hoooooo....Julie....now that one does indeed open up those wiggly worms  Nae
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#6181 - 01/30/03 02:17 PM
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Anonymous
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Actually, Julie, you're probably right. As long as a "typist" doesn't expect to earn a reasonable wage, then they can always find some physician to hire them. I guess having "round heels" comes in many forms.
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#6182 - 01/30/03 02:54 PM
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Doug Jones
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quote: would say that unless a new MT can obtain hospital experience (preferably inhouse),
That was actually the point of my thread, Gaile. The targets of many of the larger and overseas MTSO's is these organizations, persuading them to outsource their transcription. The result is that one of the major training grounds for new MT's is being lost. In the short term, it's great business. In the not-so-much-longer term, it means that the opportunities for new people aren't there, and the supply of trained personnel is going to dry up. Which is going to impact them when they try to hire MT's, editors, or QA people - there aren't going to be any.
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#6183 - 01/31/03 09:38 AM
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gertrude
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Registered: 01/31/03
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Hello,I'm new here. I work at home for a big company and I really enjoy reading MT Desk. I think it is the most intelligent and literate MT group that I have come across. When I work, sometimes I think about how much money is spent on our services when dictators repeat phrases over and over, repeat social histories, family histories, redundancies, and use big words when little ones will do. I had one doctor who rarely used the word "and." He said "as well as" instead. If dictators could be trained to be more concise and if they didn't have to dictate huge reports when a patient is admitted over and over, we might have a better future. Even though I get paid for redundancies, they annoy me and they must cost the hospitals and doctors enormous amounts of money. Maybe just a drop in the bucket, but it's a start. Like George, I dream of a big training center for dictators to go to before they are allowed near a microphone. They would be treated humanely, I promise. Most of them, anyway. And I know this is starry-eyed, pie-in-the-sky stuff! Anyway, it is nice to meet you folks.
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#6184 - 01/31/03 11:30 AM
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DCURTIS3
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Registered: 01/30/03
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Loc: Orlando, FL
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I am new here also. I have one for you. I have been with the same office for 12 years. Every summer I go on vacation all the doctors say "Thank God you're back". I was just informed at the beginning of this week that the doctors want to go to a paperless system that will terminate my position "maybe in 2-3 years". Only 1 person had the decency to tell me this. The doctors did not want to because they were afriad I would quit on them. Now I have to figure out what to do, should I go digital and get "up to date" with the transcription or think about a new career. I never thought I would be in this position.
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#6185 - 01/31/03 12:01 PM
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MTmom2
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Registered: 10/02/02
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Loc: IL
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Where I live, there are quite a few doctor's offices going paperless with voice recognition and they seem to love it although I can't see our hospitals ever having this technology. There are just too many different accents to train the machine to recognize. I have taught Medical Transcription 1 and 2 at a local community college for the last year and a half. Out of these three semesters of students, I know of one who is working as a transcriptionist today. Also, every single one of them want to get into transcription so they can work at home. I let them know the reality of this situation upfront so none of them are shocked when they can't find a job at home (or even find a job period). I can't see voice recognition taking over any time soon but I do find that there are too many new MT's and not enough seasoned MT's to go around. It is hard to get your foot in the door because it takes so long to be trained properly. Most companies/hospitals don't have the time or the manpower to train. This puts me in an odd situation with being a teacher. I love teaching but I also know that most of the students will not find jobs.
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#6186 - 01/31/03 12:12 PM
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Carole Gilbert
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Registered: 11/14/98
Posts: 441
Loc: Altamonte Springs, FL
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I believe that those who really enjoy transcription and want to remain in it will have to become more technically literate, and go to the trouble of learning the programs that we hear will be "replacing" us. Know both ends of the barrel. Be able to chart work flow, estimate how long it takes to get things from start to finish, be able to compare costs, pros and cons of changes. Then get a business license, and business name, and become an "expert" and help offices and other MTs through the transition. In other words, diversify. For those who love MT and only want to transcribe, get excellent with miserable dictators, and learn all the different ways to receive work, i.e. call-in telestaffing, wav, MP3, downloading from ASPs, etc. and KNOW your PC. In the future, I do not believe mentoring will be found free of charge; students or new MTs may have to have several employers because it will be too expensive for just one employer to continue the training schools just do not have time for. Diane, you have 2 years' notice. If transcription is your consuming love and your best skill, begin looking for another employer or get your own clients. If you want to remain with your current employer, become an "expert" as I mentioned above, and charge accordingly once the need for training begins. If anyone is sick of MT or needs hand holding at their current job, it is time to get out now, assess strengths and weaknesses and plan for another career. Carole/gmts
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#6187 - 01/31/03 12:14 PM
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Carole Gilbert
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Registered: 11/14/98
Posts: 441
Loc: Altamonte Springs, FL
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Julie, I do believe that check off sheets are in the future; I do not believe that handwriting will come back to be a threat. Carole/gmts
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