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#5995 - 12/07/01 04:10 PM Didn't get paid
Nel
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Registered: 06/12/00
Posts: 459
Loc: MA
Sorry....just needed to vent. I subcontract
on "one" of my two jobs. My husband lost his job and I REALLY NEED THE MONEY.

How do other people deal with this? I don't even feel like working tonight!

[ 12-07-2001: Message edited by: Nel ]

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#5996 - 12/07/01 05:26 PM Re: Didn't get paid
RJAPHET
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Registered: 07/16/01
Posts: 553
Loc: WA state
Nel,

What was the reason for you not getting paid? Were you told when you would be getting your money? That would make a big difference to me.

Ruth

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#5997 - 12/07/01 08:13 PM Re: Didn't get paid
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I used to work for a doctor that would hemhaw around about paying me, would always be next week or "they" didn't cut the check, and so forth. He finally caught me just right one day, and I said look I'm not in this for my health. I expect my money to be here. This is not an easy job, and I am in it for the money. The job has its rewards but the pay is the bottomline. I never had anymore problems getting my money, after that. Sometimes you just have to stand firm even if they don't like it or you lose the account. This is too hard a job to do and not get paid!

[ 12-07-2001: Message edited by: Meems_101 ]

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#5998 - 12/07/01 09:16 PM Re: Didn't get paid
CRenee
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Registered: 03/20/00
Posts: 2319
I have an acct. that used to be very slow to pay. I then made it policy not to accept any additional work from this client until he paid for what had already been done. I have had no problems getting paid immediately after the bill is submitted since then. If you are working for a service, and there is an agreement as to when you will be paid (and there should be), I would still refuse to do any further work until they pay up.
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#5999 - 12/08/01 02:05 AM Re: Didn't get paid
statOR
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Registered: 12/31/69
Posts: 1565
Loc: Mountains of SW Oregon
Sorry to beat the same old drum again, but so much can be avoided by having a legally binding contract.

You are a professional. You are in business. Get a contract drawn up (See the Independent Medical Transcriptionist for samples).

When I looked into working for the VA Domiciliary here as a home worker, I got a copy of their contract, actually 3 copies of their contract, all 35 pages of it. Everything was spelled out, down to the last period and comma, when carbons were to be used, how each type of report was to be logged, etc.,etc.

After my friend was suddenly dropped from an account she had had for 11 years (showed up to pick up tapes and they told her they had hired the business manager's niece), I decided to CMA and put together a contract.

So many of the problems I had had before then disappeared with the implementation of a contract. I refused any new clients unless they would work on a contract with me. One doctor even looked at me with astonishment, as though a chair had walked and talked, when I insisted on a contract.

My contract included payment clause -- with a set amount for any payment later than 10 days from their receipt of my bill, with appropriate escalations, including legal for outright nonpayment, as well as denial of further services until outstanding amount had been paid.

Believe me, I may have lost a few prospective clients, but in the long run I didn't get ulcers and didn't get stiffed either.

When I was teaching MT students, I gave them copies of my current contract to use as a guide and emphasized to them that if they were going into business as an MT that they should conduct themselves in a business-like manner.

Look over the samples in the Independent MT, and I am sure there are others specific to MT business online too. Talk to your local small business advisors, contact the SCORE people. You would be amazed at how much help there is out there for you.

Sorry you have this problem, been there myself, seen fellow MTs there too. Hope it all works out for you.

Nancy

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#6000 - 12/11/01 10:32 PM Re: Didn't get paid
Nel
Member


Registered: 06/12/00
Posts: 459
Loc: MA
Thanks for the advice. With this particular job, I subcontract and he pays me after he gets paid. I know I really need to speak
up. Why don't these people have a separate account, so that they can pay their people on time. He always blames the Health Center for not getting the money to him on a timely basis.

I really love this second job, but at Christmas time and with my husband out of work, this really BITES!!!

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#6001 - 12/11/01 11:34 AM Re: Didn't get paid
Medtrans1999
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Registered: 05/24/00
Posts: 724
Loc: Massachusetts
Nel:

If you read this, please e-mail me at Medtrans1999@mediaone.net.

Thanks

Forgot to mention I tried to e-mail you, but you are blocked...

[ 12-11-2001: Message edited by: Medtrans1999 ]

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#6002 - 12/11/01 02:22 PM Re: Didn't get paid
Julie W8
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Registered: 01/10/99
Posts: 3490
Loc: Los Angeles, CA USA
I'd like to add 2 cents regarding agreeing to wait until the person you work for has been paid by the client before they will pay you...

What is in it for you with this arrangement? If you're being paid the same rate as a subcontractor or employee, you shouldn't have to wait.

I agreed one time in my career to do this. I worked "with" a woman who had the account, but I was paid the same line rate being billed to the client. I picked up and delivered and printed myself. She billed the client and paid me.

In either situation, the problem is that you have absolutely no control over when the invoice goes out or is paid and you have no way of verifying whether or not it actually has been paid or if someone is not telling you the truth. The woman I had this arrangement with was an extremely disorganized person and sometimes the bills didn't go out for months. I was certainly glad I had other sources of income or I would've gone broke. I certainly don't advise it under any circumstances.

My feeling is that if you have to wait until the client pays the bill before you're paid, you might as well cut out the middle person and get your own clients.

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#6003 - 12/12/01 09:14 AM Re: Didn't get paid
Nel
Member


Registered: 06/12/00
Posts: 459
Loc: MA
Julie, you are right. I am definitely getting the you know what end of the stick here. This is my first working at home venture. I have been working outside the home for 15+ years and still work outside during the day. I carry the health insurance since my husband got laid-off.

I haven't ventured out on my own as of yet, but that will be the next step.

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#6004 - 12/12/01 03:20 PM Re: Didn't get paid
Anonymous Unregistered



Hi, I also "subcontract" on the only job I have right now and I get very frustrated as we submit the bill a day or two before the first of the month and the doctor's office issues a check a few weeks later!!! My hands are tied as it is not my contract, but I never know when I am going to get paid and the bill collector doesn't care about that!!! I just figure this is experience for me to get as I just started back up after being away from it for 6 years...I'm trying to get my own accounts and am going to use one of those contracts everyone mentions...believe me I feelyour pain!
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#6005 - 12/13/01 07:11 AM Re: Didn't get paid
Anonymous Unregistered



Hi Ladies:

Maybe some day MTSO owners will appreciate their MTs and pay them every two weeks, like I have for the past 15 years. You should not have to experience this at all, as this is not YOUR problem. It is OURs.. That is why MTSOs should be applying for lines of credit, so that the check can be written to you on a regular basis. The whole idea is to keep YOU happy.

I cannot tell you where to go with this, however, there are great MTSOs out there to work for. They are not easy to find, as good MTs are not easy to find.

If this person truly needs you (which I do not doubt at all), they should have NO problem with a face to face confrontation with you. Go to them. Tell them to pay or that is it. You will see that if they have any morals, you will walk away with your check.

Happy Holidays!!

lisa

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#6006 - 12/13/01 07:12 AM Re: Didn't get paid
Anonymous Unregistered



Hi Ladies:

Maybe some day MTSO owners will appreciate their MTs and pay them every two weeks, like I have for the past 15 years. You should not have to experience this at all, as this is not YOUR problem. It is OURs.. That is why MTSOs should be applying for lines of credit, so that the check can be written to you on a regular basis. The whole idea is to keep YOU happy.

I cannot tell you where to go with this, however, there are great MTSOs out there to work for. They are not easy to find, as good MTs are not easy to find.

If this person truly needs you (which I do not doubt at all), they should have NO problem with a face to face confrontation with you. Go to them. Tell them to pay or that is it. You will see that if they have any morals, you will walk away with your check.

Happy Holidays!!

lisa

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