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#4497 - 07/23/01 05:44 PM AMA TRANS AM
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I don't think I've ever been more upset in my life! I am so angry that I am shaking!!! I have blown $400 of money that WE DON'T HAVE TO SPARE! If anyone is reading this and considering AMA Trans Am......RUN and don't look back!!!!!!

Does anyone who has had this HORRID experience know if I can get a refund? I haven't even started on the practice files yet. I've just installed all their crap and listened to the practice files.

By the way, guess what they're doing now. In an effort to make the "transition to paid work easier" where you have a 24 hour turn around time, test files now have to be completed in 24 hours as well. Prepares you for the real thing. What a joke. From what I've read in the archives....maybe they're just crunched for time with their doctors and need the FREE LABOR a little quicker.

Ugh! I am a new mother who desperately wants to help her husband with income...any suggestions?

Sorry to rant and rave......just so ANGRY!

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#4498 - 07/23/01 06:24 PM Re: AMA TRANS AM
JJ3
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Registered: 04/01/01
Posts: 162
Do a search for AMA Trans AM, I think this company has been discussed here before.
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#4499 - 07/23/01 06:27 PM Re: AMA TRANS AM
Annie Administrator
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Take a deep breath. I know you're angry - and that's understandable. From everything I have read and heard - you have a right to be angry - BUT - that isn't going to solve the problem. So - get it out of your system - yell, scream, holler, jump up and down - but then start figuring out what you can do from here. Perhaps other MTs who have been in your situation can offer some advice - but I'm not really sure that there is anything you can do about getting a refund on this equipment at this point in time. Did you sign a contract? Was there something that came with the paper work? Have you spoken directly with these people and told them you would like a refund?

Annie

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#4500 - 07/23/01 06:28 PM Re: AMA TRANS AM
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I did a search....thus my angry post. I'm a little calmer now. Sorry again about ranting. Just hate to be taken for a fool.
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#4501 - 07/23/01 06:31 PM Re: AMA TRANS AM
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Annie, you're right. Thanks for the reality check. I have spoken to my mother who is very good with getting results when she has been wronged. We've decided that my husband is going to call them on the phone and request a refund. We may not get one, but it won't hurt to try.

As for where to go from here, clueless on that one. Again, I'm sorry for ranting like that. I really am calm now.

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#4502 - 07/23/01 06:38 PM Re: AMA TRANS AM
maureen517
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Registered: 04/08/01
Posts: 51
Loc: Northern Kentucky
Hi newmom from Ohio! I am from Fairfield, Ohio just north of Cincinnati. I am SO sorry to hear this happened to you! I was approached by them via email sent to me by a "Mary" who supposedly helps you find jobs. Luckily I had read the posts regarding their unethical practices and did not accept. The thing is, I told this "Mary" that I didn't want to pursue the Trans Am avenue but would like to see what other jobs she was capable of finding & several times since she has sent the SAME email offering me a job at Trans Am. I am assuming she works for them or IS them. Maybe you could start with the BBB. I really don't know. There is another member of this board who is a lawyer & hopefully she will see your post & be able to give you some advice. I understand how it can be with the money. $400.00 is a lot to throw away on them & there has to be a way to get it back. I'm sure others who have been sucked in by them must have followed through attempting to get their money back & maybe they will come forward as well. I wish I had more answers to offer you!
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#4503 - 07/23/01 07:10 PM Re: AMA TRANS AM
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Hi:

I've been reading about the business practices of AMA Transam (sp?) for a while now. It seems to be a total scam. Since they apparently do business and solicit business across state lines, perhaps they could be gotten on mail fraud, or another such federal offense.

If anyone knows of a governmental agency that might be helpful with this, perhaps they could post that information.

These people seem to be getting away with murder, and I know how much 400 dollars hurts to lose, particularly when you are struggling to begin with.

Mady

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#4504 - 07/23/01 07:15 PM Re: AMA TRANS AM
girllimberlost
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Registered: 02/22/01
Posts: 2409
Loc: spanish fork, ut, usa
For all those who had questioned if someone was just trying to bash AMA TransAm, and not personally heard of anyone getting burned... here you go.

I am so sorry newmom. I just got your email, and I had to jump over here to see if you had found out more. Please do call me as we discussed. I am sure that we can hash out the details of where you are and where you can still go. I hope that there are some other options for you.

Again, I am so sorry. I had a similar experience, and it was with a company that I interviewed for in person, and picked up my checks every other week. I lost over $2000 in wages that I just had to write off as a loss. There are just some sneaky people who try to put one over on trusting people. Be glad you found out now before you actually started "working" for them. You could have lost a lot more... money and time.


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#4505 - 07/23/01 08:10 PM Re: AMA TRANS AM
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Thank you all for the posts. I just applied with them and have been emailing back and forth with them. You just saved me alot of time and most important $$$$$. I can't thank you enough. I looked into their career oppertunities and they are supposed to email me with a contract to review- never mind. I have been saved once again. I am sorry for the expirence you had to go through just to find out the hard way. Maybe you could contact the Better Buisness Bureau.

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#4506 - 07/23/01 08:46 PM Re: AMA TRANS AM
Annie Administrator
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Okay, newmom - this may not seem like much of a consolation right now - but at the very least - at least one person here has benefited from your experience. I'm sure there will be others as time goes by. I know that many have said that there is "nothing on them with the BBB" Perhaps it is time to start changing that. I don't know what the criteria is for filing complaints with the BBB - but that may be a really good way for those of you who have not had a good experience with them to start stopping some of this nonsense. Please keep us posted.
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#4507 - 07/23/01 09:59 PM Re: AMA TRANS AM
straws
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Registered: 12/15/00
Posts: 2809
Loc: in limbo
newmom,

Hope you got it off your chest! When things fall apart with me, I have to *itch, moan and groan about it for at least an hour to get the problem outside of me, and then I can think rationally. My husband drives me crazy when, right in the middle of the ranting, he says something about calming down. Then about an hour later, after I have gone outside and cooled down, things start to make sense again.

This is all great advice. One question: What did you get for your $400 (besides screwed)? Did you get any software that you can utilize somewhere else? Did they give you a wave player or something? This certainly will not make up for the $400 (wave player are closer to $150-200), but at least you may have something you can use. Also, how did you pay them?

This is why I ask...When I was starting out, I called an ad for a directory of prescreened companies in my area who have stated they would hire people to do computer work at home. Medical transcription was very specifically one of these things. They said "money back" as long as you gave it a decent shot. I spent a month calling every name in the directory. This was in Chicago, and they had places like Joliet listed with downtown area codes like 312 (if you live in the area you will understand). They had people's residences in there, dead physicians, retired physicians, offices who indicated they have NEVER considered sending anything outside the office, and the list goes on and on. So I called for two weeks trying to get my money back, but there was never an answer. Called the ad number that I still had, and it was no longer in service. (I would post the company, but I no longer remember, and I am sure they would have changed it by now).

I ultimately got my money back this way...I had paid for it with my credit card (AmEx), and I disputed the charge (even though about two months had passed at this time). AmEx, as part of its members services, proceeded to investigate the claim and I never had to pay out the money!!!!!!

I hope you did not send a money order or check. If it was with a credit card, I urge you to call them and find out if you have a service like this. It may save you a lot of $$$$$

Please let us know how it turns out! straws

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#4508 - 07/24/01 07:13 AM Re: AMA TRANS AM
CRenee
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Registered: 03/20/00
Posts: 2319
My gut feeling was that it was AMA TransAm that you were involved with, newmom...and so sorry to have that confirmed.
You might want to try testing with MedQuist, as they will test newbies...although a lot depends on the schooling you have had. So once you've gotten this mess dealt with, perhaps you can investigate further schooling.
Best of luck to you! It was a learning experience of a different sort, huh?

(Sorry I had your name wrong...had to go back and edit.)

[ 07-24-2001: Message edited by: CRenee ]

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#4509 - 07/24/01 07:35 AM Re: AMA TRANS AM
Anonymous Unregistered



Yes, it was QUITE the learning experience. I thought I had researched the company enough before signing a contract, but I didn't know about this website and didn't have this valuable information at my fingertips. I am so glad I may have saved someone else from hooking up with such a crooked company.

Thanks for the suggestion (I don't remember from who) about testing with MedQuist. I looked at their website and I'm thinking I wouldn't be considered. I don't have 2 years experience and the schooling I got was with a local vocational school...certainly not a MT school.

I really don't know where to go from here. MT is something I really want to do. I guess I am right back where I was. Oh well, I'm all the wiser too. Thanks again to all of you who listened and posted. Your encouragement has really helped me....especially when I was so angry last night.

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#4510 - 07/24/01 08:52 AM Re: AMA TRANS AM
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Newmom,

Sorry about your experience with Trans Am. I've not heard anything good about them here.

About testing with Medquist, here's what I did. Instead of going through the website, I did a yahoo yellow pages search for the office near where I live (which ended up being over an hour away). I called the office and talked to the recruiter and we set up an appointment for me to go there and take the test. She said that I could have taken the test at home and sent it back, but she prefered that I take it there. She let me test even though I was a newbie with no experience. I didn't pass, but that's another story. I at least had the chance to try, and I can try again in six months.

Good luck!

Crystal

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#4511 - 07/24/01 09:41 AM Re: AMA TRANS AM
Anonymous Unregistered



I just had to check this out more because I see the name here often.
What did you sign up for? Was it a job? Was it the mentoring program? If it was the Mentoring-Protégée Program, then from what I read at the web site they are giving you what you need to practice and polish transcription but they are not offering a job.
quote:
The Mentoring-Protégé/Protégée Program is the step between your academic training in medical transcription and an actual professional MT position. It gives you the hands-on experience in preparing yourself for the profession of medical transcription.

If you were hoping for a job,
quote:
Career Opportunities: Those MTs who meet our standard rate of accuracy will be the first to be assigned to new accounts coming onboard.
Note: new accounts coming onboard.
Also,
quote:
AMA Trans Am Corporation is a friendly company that demands excellence from their transcriptionists. Our standard to work for us is less than one error per page, however those transcriptionists presently working for our clients make less than one error in 10 pages, and there are a few who average less than one error in approximately 50 pages.
My interpetation of this is that if you currently make more than one error per page, they will put you in the mentoring-protege program until you make no more than one error per page which is their standard. However, they also say that
quote:
those transcriptionists presently working for our clients make less than one error in 10 pages, and there are a few who average less than one error in approximately 50 pages.


So I can see how they set you up with false hopes for a job as a newbie but actually they have you transcribe tapes, real or "practice", and you either stick it out until you meet their standards or you realize you can get paid by another company to actually earn while you learn.
Basically, they set employment standards very high, which I would do if it were my company, but they really don't give a newbie who has had previous training a paying intership. You pay them to let you do internship.

I personally feel they are confusing and misleading and if they really wanted to they could be and should be more clear and precise about their company.

Lastly, anyone who feels they have been burned, the BBB only goes by what info they are given and if no one files a complaint, then the companies like AMA Trans will have a satisfactory rating and others will feel they were sucked in like you were.

Now get yourself over to the BBB and file a complaint if you need to and let us know how it goes.

BBB

Linda

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#4512 - 07/24/01 09:59 AM Re: AMA TRANS AM
girllimberlost
Member


Registered: 02/22/01
Posts: 2409
Loc: spanish fork, ut, usa
This is the thing that gets me. If they are wanting people to pay to have an internship opportunity, then they need to state that. From what I understand, newmom paid $400 for SOFTWARE so that she could download files and manipulate them with her KEYBOARD. She didn't even get a footpedal. Now we all know that wav pedals cost anywhere from $150 to $200 at the most, and the software cannot be $400. You can buy WordPerfect or Word for less than that.

My feeling is that they are masking the "mentoring" as something else and misleading in their presentation.

About the BBB, I remember that someone else posted that they were in Colorado, and now it seems that they are in Florida. Does the BBB cross state lines? I seemed to remember it doesn't, but I could be wrong. I guess one would have to file complaints in both the state one resides as well as the state in which the company is located.

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#4513 - 07/24/01 01:09 PM Re: AMA TRANS AM
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They just emailed me the adress for reviewing their contract. If anyone wants to take a look: http://www.ama-transam.com/email-contract.htm

Let me know what you think.

I just went to Total Emed and click on career opportunities. They say that they provide transcription equipment and software free of charge.

[ 07-24-2001: Message edited by: ph5 ]

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#4514 - 07/24/01 01:56 PM Re: AMA TRANS AM
girllimberlost
Member


Registered: 02/22/01
Posts: 2409
Loc: spanish fork, ut, usa
WOW!!! That is the most interesting contract that I have ever seen.

I guess that they do give you spell check software, but I don't know about controlling dictation from the keyboard. Why not a footpedal? That would complicate things for me.

The software I use also "floats" and I can control volume, speed, back space, etc., but for less money, and I got a foot pedal.

Oh well, I guess if you want to be "loyal" and positive for Trans Am you are certainly welcome to do that. (What does that mean to be loyal?)

And apparently they don't pay you anything if you are anything worse than 1 error per page. And, might I add, what would be the point of them "mentoring" you for an "indefinite" period of time on "practice files". That would be a total waste of time for me.

So, pay the $350 plus shipping, handling and taxes, get software that works with their system, no footpedal, and electronic spell checkers. OH, and a newsletter... I almost forgot. But only if you are already top-notch (did I mention that they pay 0.07/65cpl) will you get paid. Otherwise, they will mentor you, for which you do not get paid, but for which they will provide unlimited practice files and unlimited assistance forever.

Also, what did everyone else think about the work files that you are required to submit to them if you decide to quit? They are so careful to mention that you are a subcontractor and responsible for your own schooling and equipment, but they seem to get fuzzy on "loyalty", "ending contracts" (for which you will lose 50% of your pay if it is not done per the specifications listed), and now a work file? They want all the word lists, medication lists, templates, and patient files fully documented if you leave, and require that you archive files for them for three months. Sounds like an employee to me...

Thanks for the link. That cleared up a lot of things for me. I hope that everyone will consider long and hard before they sign any contract. You could be in so much trouble...

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#4515 - 07/24/01 02:17 PM Re: AMA TRANS AM
Anonymous Unregistered



After paying for school and minor equipment;
You should not have to spend money to make money, right?

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#4516 - 07/24/01 03:06 PM Re: AMA TRANS AM
girllimberlost
Member


Registered: 02/22/01
Posts: 2409
Loc: spanish fork, ut, usa
Yes, you will have to spend money. You will or you will get lost in the technology burst. It is reasonable to spend money on your own business. If you are an employee, you are supposed to be supplied with your equipment, but you will still need reference materials, internet access, long distance, new computers, software upgrades, etc.

The point is, if you are a contractor, you are responsible for your own stuff, and you should be checking out various computers, wav pedals, transcription software, rerecord devices, etc., to do the job. This software, IMHO, is not worth $350. But that is just my opinion.

My big complaint is that they are very carefully walking the line. They are so close to being illegal, but way over in the truth-in-advertising area, but still not illegal, because of their contract. The Better Business Bureau requires proof of non-payment. They can not pay you if your work falls under a certain quality. Most companies I know have a penalty (0.005 per line) for falling below standard, but to not pay you for the WHOLE MONTH... that is a little extreme. But it is there, right in the contract.

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