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#4223 - 12/10/99 04:29 PM
Do You Use Expander or Macro Programs On The Job?
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Linda Andrews CMT
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How many of you use expander or macro programs in your jobs?
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#4224 - 12/10/99 05:10 PM
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Linda, Starting next week, I will be trained on how to use expanders. It looks like it will be a good tool to work with, especially if one can't remember exactly how to spell a difficult word correctly (me). There are soo many things about this hospitals programs that I need to learn, so anything that will be helpful and cut down on my time of looking correct spellings up, will be to my advantage.
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#4225 - 12/10/99 05:18 PM
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Hi Linda: Count ME as one happy macro user. I have 100s of them and realize what a time saver they are. A while back I was working for a local hospital who promised me the use of macros. But, because I was hired as only part-time I did not have my own station and had to use the equipment and work areas assigned to another person. I worked in areas where certain transcriptionists had days off. I was promised macros, which had to be installed by the computer people. I was there for six months and the installation never took place, hence I left. I felt it was very short-sighted in my employers' part, but so be it. Anyway, I am transcribing at home, which I had done for many many years in the past, and am enjoying my own schedule and best off all the MACROS!!!! P.S. almost all medications have macros.
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#4226 - 12/10/99 05:19 PM
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Hi Linda: Count ME as one happy macro user. I have 100s of them and realize what a time saver they are. A while back I was working for a local hospital who promised me the use of macros. But, because I was hired as only part-time I did not have my own station and had to use the equipment and work areas assigned to another person. I worked in areas where certain transcriptionists had days off. I was promised macros, which had to be installed by the computer people. I was there for six months and the installation never took place, hence I left. I felt it was very short-sighted in my employers' part, but so be it. Anyway, I am transcribing at home, which I had done for many many years in the past, and am enjoying my own schedule and best off all the MACROS!!!! P.S. almost all medications have macros.
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#4227 - 12/10/99 05:22 PM
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Sorry about the double post. My mouse must have a stuttering problem tonight.
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#4228 - 12/10/99 06:07 PM
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Not a new MT, but I am a confessed macro user. The best thing about them is that if I continuosly mis-type a word, I can give it a macro. However, I do feel that this may be a bad thing to get in the habit of with new MTs in mind. It is better to start out the old-fashioned way. If you put me on someone else's computer I'd be lost. My report would start out like this: The pt comes in for ww following her comp last month, which was ess. You get the idea.
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#4229 - 12/10/99 06:22 PM
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Linda? What did you start here ??? hehehe As for macros, the hospital I am working at does NOT allow word expanders/macros for trainees, who are paid hourly. Trainees do not have any minimum lines per day/hour. Again, my employer demands QUALITY first -- QUANTITY second. Of course, they do supply "normals" for doctors who have prepared them.
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#4230 - 12/10/99 06:23 PM
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SamanthaT
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Registered: 12/09/98
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I am a happy camper and use them all the time. I do like someone else on the MTDesk board does, I make myself go back to use a macro if I forget. This way it reinforces my memory. Here is a funny thing that happened the other day. I was emailing with the head proofer the other day after an across the company mail went out about using what is called a special key for the -year-old. Well, this special key once set up requires you to hit the alt button and a number key. The alt and numbers are a stretch for my fingers and slows me down in the process. So, I had set up macros (aka autokeys - where I work) for the ages from 1-90 and just had the number listed as 1y and it would expand to 1-year-old. This was a suggesting in the book Linda sent us. It works like a charm! The head proofer wrote back and said she thought it was a lot of work setting them up like that. I wrote her back and explained that I had done this during a time when I was down due to faulty equipment. When I explained the extra time it took to reach for the alt key versus just two key strokes I was familar with and the fact that I could just scoot right along, she told me to do whatever was comfortable and saved me time. I also explained that it was a trick/tip listed in the book that Linda sent us after graduation. I have also done certain drugs that way, as listed in the book and it saves tons of time. i4 = ibuprofen 400 mg. I use pq for p.o. q.d., since it is a common dosage schedule. Can you tell I love this program?  My hat is off to Linda who lighted the way to shortcuts and to MeMe and Fiddler who dragged me into the understanding of it all. Sam
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#4231 - 12/10/99 06:51 PM
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Annie
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I'm curious, Gaile - what is the theory behind not allowing the trainees to use macros/expanders? I'm just wondering why it is they see this as detrimental. Annie
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#4232 - 12/10/99 10:59 PM
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Anonymous
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Annie, Well.... maybe similar to not using calculators in grammar school?
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#4233 - 12/11/99 02:30 AM
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law
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A little off the subject, but can somebody explain why we had to use quills and ink wells in my first grade before we were allowed to use ball point pens? I am quite sure it had nothing to do with penmanship, as it did nothing to improve mine. In nursing school we were not allowed to use calculators when making conversions. The theory was that calculators had batteries that run out (mind you, we were already tested many times on conversions by this time, and had all completed the required algebra courses). Of course, nobody's MIND runs out after 14 hours' work, right???? Nobody ever thought of carrying extra batteries, right??? There's only ONE calculator in a hospital, right??? Conversions came easily to me, up until hour 12 or so..... Perhaps they wanted to see if the new MT's could actually transcribe each and every word in the macro, since they of course would not encounter the words in any other dictation.  Or maybe it's a trade secret, those two little keystrokes. I personally HATE typing the word "epiluminescence". Take my macros away and I'll end up with my fingers permanently twisted into an Escher nightmare. Laura [This message has been edited by law (edited December 11, 1999).]
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#4234 - 12/12/99 01:06 AM
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Linda - I've been working almost 10 months, and now have over 2189 macros. (no, I didn't count 'em, the program gives the total number. ) I'm four times as fast as I was starting out, and I would guess that fully *half* that is due to macro use. (the other half, of course, just from getting familiar with the quirks of each dictator - and there are about 180 of them on my account, so it took a while). Sometime at the end of a pay period, when I've done all the lines I *need*... I'm going to try typing for a half hour or an hour WITHOUT the macros, and see just what the difference is in lines per hour. Now you've got me all curious. ; ) [This message has been edited by Melissa V (edited December 12, 1999).]
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#4235 - 12/12/99 08:48 PM
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To clarify my post before, I think it is better not to use macros while in school. That way you at least get a jump on typing out the words and spelling them correctly before they get turned into a macro. I think that it would help as far as job testing, if you are not allowed to use macros on a test.
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#4236 - 12/13/99 04:00 AM
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Donna B
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Registered: 12/09/99
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Loc: PA&AZ/USA
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You all know I just started with a national last week. They give you a "glossary" and you have to add your own macros. Yesterday, on my own time, I put in 10 pages of macros. It's a beginning, but I'm no where near the awesome 2,000+ that someone mentioned. That is my goal, and I'm sure it will help my productivity considerably. Right now, with looking everything up, plus learning the DOS program, I am not very fast, but my friends like Brian and Donna2 assure me that will come. Macros are essential, it seems to me, if you want to make any money. My trainer at the company says some people actually resist them. Why anybody would, is beyond me. They are a timesaver, as well as a wristsaver.
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#4237 - 12/13/99 04:30 PM
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law
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Loc: Acts of God Theme Park
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I agree, MooCow; essential to learn every bit of terminology in school and macros would defeat the purpose!!!! I'd hate to go through all that, though, and not be able to use macros on the job. That would just add to the low production beginners get anyway. On the other hand, once the training period is over with, they would see a HUGE jump in production! And if they're being paid by the hour, why not....but it's gotta be frustrating if they know the macros are there!
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#4238 - 12/13/99 11:17 PM
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I'm working for the same national that has "autokeys" (mentioned above); I have only been with them 4 weeks or so and am loving it. I am doing operative reports and discharge summaries -- heavy terminology -- and am learning words and phrases hand over fist! Every day I am stopping to make more and more macros of these words and phrases, which is time-consuming but which I know will pay off in the end. One problem I've run into as a newbie using "macros" is having errors in the report because the macro text isn't *exactly* what is dictated. I haven't sent in a report with an error like this in it, thank goodness, because I proof carefully after typing the report, but I have caught myself numerous times and either had to revise the macro or add additional versions of it. Another drawback to a newbie using macros that I have found is that often the same abbreviation means different things, depending on context. Having the macro auto-expand an abbreviation without checking it first (and I am still at the point where I have to check and recheck almost all abbreviations that I hear, except for the most common) can give you an incorrect expansion that is out of context, simply due to ignorance that there are other meanings for that abbreviation. And oldie would probably never make these errors in context, but to a newbie, it is hard to determine which expansion applies. Relying on the expander and not looking these abbreviations up can inhibit actual "transcribing" of the report (meaning understanding, editing, making logical decisions on word meaning for understanding of the report as a whole, etc.) as opposed to simply typing it without following the details of the procedure/report. Well, those are my thoughts anyway. But I continue to add to my database and am enjoying those reports where almost every word is part of a macro'd phrase or is a single word macro. For instance, I love the sentence "Pupils equal, round, reactive to light and accommodation; extraocular muscles intact." That's "pperrla; eomi." Or "The patient was brought to the Operating Room and prepped and draped in the usual sterile fashion." That's "ttp w brought to t or8 and pdusf" for now; I'm hoping to make this one short macro phrase in future, but my doctors say this in such a wide variety of ways, it's easier for me now to do it piece-meal. I know to you old-ies these little macros are nothing, but to me it's sheer delight! (I can hear you now, isn't that cutest little thing, all those little macros?  Guess I'll pipe down now and let others get a word in. Have a good night all, and thanks for the good questions, Linda. -Amy
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#4239 - 12/14/99 06:45 AM
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pattyB
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Hi Amy, There is a trick for shortforms (my term for macro) that have multiple meanings and for when you don't want it to expand. I'll throw out an example. CVA can mean cerebral vascular accident OR CVA can mean costovertebral angle. In this case you would create a shortform for it as follows: cva (lower case) to expand to CVA (upper case) cva1 to expand to cerebral vascular accident AND cva2 to expand to costovertebral angle. I do this with all my abbreviations. The first one never has a number attached and is in lower case but expands to upper case, thus saving the time to press the Caps Lock. The full expansion has an arabic numeral. The trick is just remembering which numeral expands it if it has multiple meanings. Hope this is helpful. By the way, I use Abbreviate. It works in all Windows applications, even e-mail and on the Net so you don't have to switch to full typing mode when you're not doing transcription. Patty
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#4240 - 12/14/99 10:37 PM
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Thanks, Patty, for the tip on the abbreviations! I despise the shift key and have done that for "I" (i) and I have all my letters set up as doubles for capitals "Turning..." = "tturning," but never thought to set up the abbreviations to auto-capitalize. That's right handy.  I'll also keep your suggestion in mind for the multiple meanings; right now I still have to look everything up to make sure I'm not making an incorrect assumption. :O Thanks so much! -Amy
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