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#4097 - 02/04/04 08:20 AM mucus vs. mucous
nancyellen
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I was just catching up on the Word Help board, and I noticed ginac's speculum exam post. In Debo's reply, she suggested that ginac's "mucous discharge" should be changed to "mucus discharge."

So now I'm wondering: In that phrase, what is the actual noun? I'd been thinking that in this case, "mucous" describes discharge, so the adjectival form should be used, as in "mucous membrane." But I respect Debo's experience, and I'm wondering now if "mucus" would be correct there.

What do you think?

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#4098 - 02/04/04 08:35 AM Re: mucus vs. mucous
MuscleUp
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I have this question every time I transcribe mucous plug. Stedman's shows it as I have it typed, and I would think that mucous discharge would also be correct.
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#4099 - 02/04/04 08:41 AM Re: mucus vs. mucous
Debo
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Hmmm.....I was thinking of it in terms of the material discharged....now I'm wondering....
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#4100 - 02/04/04 12:22 PM Re: mucus vs. mucous
ebadrake
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Stedman's also has mucus blanket and mucus impaction. How are those different from "mucous plug" or "mucous discharge"? I think "mucus impaction" and "mucous plug" are especially similar.

Dorland's has cervical mucus, mucus extravasation phenomenon, mucus retention cyst, and sperm-cervical mucus contact test but a host of mucous phrases.

Interestingly, I didn't see mucus fistula (although I could have missed it) in either reference.

I can see some logic to Dorland's use of mucus in the phrases above but no logic to the distinctions made by Stedman's. I'd use mucous in all adjectival senses and mucus only when you are talking about the slimy icky stuff.

So, mucous membranes (the membranes secrete mucus but are not made of mucus) but mucus impaction (a wad of mucus), mucus plug (a plug made of mucus), mucus discharge (it's running out the nose or cervix), mucus blanket (a blanket of mucus), and mucus fistuula (a tract through which mucus passes). I would consider all of these compound nouns.

However, as many references as you consult, that's how many opinions you'll get on this one. It's pretty much a subjective decision. The above are just my opinion and my distinctions.

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#4101 - 02/04/04 01:14 PM Re: mucus vs. mucous
nancyellen
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Thank you, Ellen. That helps, and it also supports Deb's suggestion to ginac.
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#4102 - 02/04/04 02:26 PM Re: mucus vs. mucous
Debo
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Ellen thanks for clarification and Nancy to the thought-provoking question.
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#4103 - 02/07/04 07:25 AM Re: mucus vs. mucous
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These 2 terms DO get confusing, and I've been doing MT for a long time. Sometimes even the context doesn't help. My own personal rule is that if you can insert "of" in the phrase (mucus discharge = discharge of mucus; mucus plug - a plug of mucus) then it's more than likely the noun.

Someone on "another MT site" asked about mucusy/mucousy discharge, and got several answers, split about 50-50 between mucusy and mucousy. I thought that the addition of the "y" made it an adjective already, so I said it'd be mucusy.

I'd love to hear other opinions on this.

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#4104 - 02/07/04 09:23 AM Re: mucus vs. mucous
ebadrake
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Eagle Eye, I'm going to start a new thread for the "mucusy/mucousy discharge" question, ok?

Duh! I already started a new thread, but I realize now an old thread moves to the top of the list when it's been posted. I should have kept them together, but to avoid any further confusion (if only in my muddled brain), I'm going to leave it like I have it. Sorry Eagle Eye.

Edited to admit to my confusion. I just got up and haven't had coffee yet (is that a good excuse?)

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#4105 - 02/07/04 09:25 AM Re: mucus vs. mucous
ebadrake
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P.S. Your use of "of" as a test is a good one. I used to tell my students that, but since I couldn't really find a resource to back me up, I didn't mention it. But I use that test too.
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